The cops and universities already have these videos, but they would never be admissible in court. Even I was shocked. Each description below is a link. Just click it, or open in a tab.
It's not just residents that wreck cars
"Someone needs to throw the first bottle"
"Waddya think ah the car? It's good crack like isn't it?
"We all live in the Holy-Holy-Land"
Dancin' in the streets
"Let's go fucking mental"
"Olay-olay-olay-olay"
This could be the beach bonfire in The Lord of the Flies
"That's fantastic, boy"
"Violence not seen for a long time in Northern Ireland"
The day after. At around 0.59 you can hear the voice of our future. He can barely talk. He has no remorse. What the fuck is this creature doing at a university?
"Tomorrow belongs to me." The beer garden scene from Cabaret. Watch carefully and see the resonance with the Holyland.
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Alan, why is Joanna Kershaw laughing gaily- "Film my dogs" etc. etc. Next minute, the BBC rolls up and its the "Oh my god, its very frightening" spiel again.
Media savvy?? She must be taking lessons from yourself!
Let's get something straight. Johanna is being victimised by your precious fucking students. This isn't child's play. This is people's fucking lives we're dealing with here.
Now, as I mentioned elsewhere, we were initially outside the riot and felt no sense of danger, as you can see in the video. A few minutes later we were sucked into the middle of mayhem. We had to filter through the police lines to safety. There she was interviewed by the BBC and Irish News. She was thoroughly shocked. In the interview she explains how it had not seemed at all threatening and then she experienced it up close and it was a different matter all together.
We took the long way back to her house and then Bam!!! got sucked bright into it again. We were caught between the lines as bottles crashed among us. We were close to the guy who got hit in the head and took shelter in the same house. Johanna was in shock. The police called an ambulance for the guy with the head injury (there was a lot of blood).
That night we called round to see how he was. He was still in hospital and needed staples.
Tell your mates to leave her alone.
I would never, ever, condone the ill treatment and abuse that has been afforded that lady, I appreciate and respect your friendship let me get that straight...Excuse my misspelling of her name earlier.
My point is that what was initially you and Johanna having a bit of craic- and smiling(!) with '...fucking students' was purported in the media, and continues to be so, as if you were mauled by some all consuming mob. Which seems not to be the case.
Apology accepted.
We weren't devoured by an all consuming mob. We were, however, caught in the middle of a riot. This is a stressful and shocking experience.
To go from being on the outside, seeing little to bang in the middle is the contrast between the "before" and "after" video clips.
It's worth noting that Johanna had told the media about the cops assaulting women. She had also been very concerned about the guy with the head injury.
To receive grief because she described her own experience (I was with her; it was a war zone) is unacceptable. Johanna has been tormented in the past because she spoke out, and it says much for the designer republican generation that they target a lone woman pensioner.
Have to agree with Alan here, was also in the house in Agincourt that Johanna and he took shelter in...she was genuinely distressed by the 'riot' and on top of that she was quite vocal that day and in the press the next day at how she thought the police were too heavy handed!
And Alan, you have to admit for all your bitching you do about students, that house you took shelter in - we were very welcoming to both of you and the wee dog (in fact I think someone even offered Johanna some brandy to calm her nerves),so you see - there are a few exceptions!
I don't entirely agree with the 'small minority' argument as you can clearly see on Youtube that the entire Holy Land student population, along with half the country were out on the streets, but in saying that very few of them were actually throwing anything!!
My suggestion for next year is for Moaning Tony and the rest of the resident group to carry out a few rain dances, then that way there will be no students out drinking in their front gardens - we're allergic to rain!!
You were very welcoming and both Johanna and I appreciate it.
I can't claim that all students are the problem. However there is something going on in the student body and in the society as a whole. The communities are not coming together. They are pulling further apart.
St Patrick's Day was, I think, a very important event because it lifted the lid, not just on the area, or the students or the universities, but the whole of Northern Ireland. It drowned out the glitzy parade. Which is the real us; the shiny veneer or the dry rot underneath?
Thanks for sheltering us, by the way. We really were caught in the middle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nchc05Hv2c
Ehh when she was laughing and joking (as seen on youtube) this was AFTER the 'riots', then later she gives an interview on BBC saying she was 'frightened' etc. There was no violence in between these two incidences
Alan I haven't always agreed with what you had to say but I understand what your trying to do. From day one the Universities should have had a rules, not a code of conduct, but rules on student behaviour off campus. Strict rules that were enforced.
I complained to Queen's several times about my neighbours on Fitzroy avenue when I was in final year. When I complained they listened and where very understanding. What did the students get? A fine off £100 each. They laughed at it. I don't blame then I'd laugh to, £100 is nothing to get scared about. I ended up moving out of te house and still paying rent on it.
UNIVERSITIES WISE UP!
OK. Right. I'm going to have to explain this yet again this time very slowly.
First of all, tell your mates to stop intimidating a lone elderly woman. I'm talking about her receiving real threats here. Whatever your issue is, we're talking about real people's lives here, not squabbles in the schoolyard.
Now, watch the video carefully. I'm the tall guy. (It's a primark top, not celtic). At the start where are we? Outside the police cordon. We can see very little.
Look at the second part of the video. Were are we? I'm with her. We're behind the front line, in the police rear in Carmel Street. How did we get there? We went round the long way, down Palestine Street to the junction with Agincourt Avenue. We wanted to see what was happening. We got caught in the press as the police cleared Carmel Street. The only way out was through police lines in the company of BBC reporters.See the first article in Aftermath Part 1. There is Johanna, with a reporter, caught in the middle of the riot in Carmel St. You can see us negotiating safe passage in the news montage in the current article "the movie". It's the "Violence not seen..." one.
At this point we have come through violence. It is not pleasant, especially if you are a pensioner.
We took the long way back to her house and ended up getting sucked in again, caught in the middle in Agincourt Avenue. Bottles are flying, a guy gets hit in the head on his doorstep, and we take shelter in the same house.
I hope I have made that clear for you. Tell your friends to leave her alone.
sure after the so called distressing part, i seen her standing laughing and joking with a group of students on agincourt avenue, she was even dancing, musta been so scared she felt the need to laugh and dance! sure hope i never get that scared!
Lies are one thing. Dangerous lies are another. I was with her. There was no dancing, joking or laughing in Agincourt Avenue. One would be hard pressed to do that with bottles crashing around us.
We've all seen YouTube. We've all seen what happened that day. Stop trying to belittle the experience of others in order to justify your own criminality.
several people seen her do this on agincourt, pity i didnt get a video of it
You, my cowardly and malicious friend, didn't get a video because it didn't happen. Nor could it have with the fluid, violent situation.
oh rite then my eyes mustnt have been working properly, nor where the eyes of the other people. My mistake alan, you, who didnt see it, are right and i and several others, who did see it, are wrong! i take it back!
I'm glad to hear you say so. You really must get your eyes tested.
perhaps u are unfamiliar with sarcasm alan?
alan, most things i agree with you on, but at the bottom of carmel street i helped Johanna onto a wall so she could see what was going on, she did think it was in her own words "great".
That was on the junction with Agincourt before we got sucked in to the riot good and proper.
Look at the first photograph in Aftermath part 1. There she is in Carmel St, obviously distressed.
boohoo!
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