This means that one can get a degree without ever leaving home. No more need for student accommodation. No more need to move to Belfast. What justification do they have now? Those inbred yokels flood into the Holyland like a Tidal Wave of Excrement. Yet they don't go to class, so tuition fees are wasted. They regurgitate their notes onto the exam paper just like they were taught in grammar school. They are simply a grotesque waste of taxpayers money. This does not bother their parents who, after all, enjoy unearned wealth and privilege courtesy of the UK taxpayer. Oddly they claim to oppose the Union, much in the same way, I suppose, as a high class whore claims to oppose prostitution. A short anecdote describes perfectly their hypocrisy. I found myself chatting to the occupants of a expensive car; the father in a dark suit; mother conservatively dressed; both middle aged, middle class parents, their demeanour dignified and restrained. In the back sits their daughter, laughing through her fake tan,
"We're movin' in on Monday!!! Party!!!!!!!!!!"
Mum and dad are unmoved, unphased. For them there is nothing wrong. I slap my hand on my head and say,
"Thank fuck I'm leaving"
Correspondence study enables those who are repulsed at the well earned stigma of our local universities to get an education without leaving here. Lectures can be made available on line or on DVD. It's just like the Open University only dearer. Someone should have thought of it sooner.
Uni offers cut-price degrees in north
By Simon Doyle Education Correspondent27/05/08
STUDENTS are being offered the chance to earn cut-price degrees from an English university without having to leave Northern Ireland.
Plans to develop a US-style state college network using the north’s further education (FE) institutions are being brought forward by Leeds Metropolitan University.
The scheme will allow FE students to work towards higher qualifications while saving thousands of pounds in accommodation, travel and fees.
Accredited degrees can be earned for around £1,000 a year less than it would cost to study at either of Northern Ireland’s two universities.
Leeds Met is offering its courses through Belfast Metropolitan College and is working to develop links with other colleges.
The university already has a strong association with the north – its Carnegie faculty of sport and education sponsors Irish League, women’s and schools’ cup soccer.
It said it now hopes to encourage more people in Northern Ireland to continue their studies by making degrees more accessible and affordable.
Leeds Met was the first university to announce it would charge less than the maximum ‘top-up’ tuition fees when the controversial new system was introduced.
Top-up fees – blamed for adding to record levels of student debt – are set to rise from £3,000 to £3,145 a year in line with inflation but courses at Leeds Met have a price tag of £2,000.
Its expanding partnership with the north’s FE colleges gives students, for the first time, the opportunity to avail of cheaper degrees without having to move to England.
With transport and other costs rising, this may be also attractive for many as it will mean saving on accommodation and travel.
Vice-chancellor Simon Lee, a former dean of the School of Law at Queen’s University Belfast, said the relationship between Leeds Met and the north’s colleges was “evolving”.
“We should be like an American state university. We are not trying to be a research university. We are trying to be like the University of Texas, Wisconsin or California, where there are different campuses and different community colleges,” he said.
“The regional college network sees the value of the partnership and we like the idea of students who might have stopped at that stage of their education feeling confident and wanting to keep progressing.”
Students can study for foundation degrees – in subjects including marketing and media technology – in colleges for two years.
They can then either transfer to Leeds or stay at home for an extra year to earn a full degree.
Prof Lee said while the collaboration was still in its infancy he predicted that more students would earn their degrees without moving to Leeds.
“It is possible for students never to leave home,” he said.
University Leeds way in forging new links
By Simon Doyle Education Correspondent27/05/08
Having already developed strong links with Northern Ireland through sport, a university in England is now seeking to expand the range of academic opportunities open to students. Education correspondent Simon Doyle reports
When Professor Simon Lee, a one-time dean of the law faculty at Queen’s University Belfast, was appointed head of Liverpool Hope University he sought to boost the number of Irish students on campus.
His Hope Across the Irish Sea campaign saw the undergraduate total from both north and south rise from a tiny proportion to the 1,000 that attend the university today.
Prof Lee said Liverpool was a natural place for young people from Ireland to study while Hope itself also offered a small town charm attractive to those from rural areas.
Now as vice-chancellor of Leeds Metropolitan University, Prof Lee is again looking to his former home.
His university’s Carnegie brand is already well-established in sport in the north and he is seeking to expand the university’s role in further and higher education.
“It is obviously more of a difficult proposition than Liverpool because it hasn’t got the historical and romantic attachment. It hasn’t got the proximity and didn’t have the communications,” Prof Lee said.
“When I came I did not want to do what I did at Hope, so for the first year I don’t think we did very much at all about Northern Ireland.
“At the end of that first year, Bradford City football club got into difficulties and I suggested that we see if we can help.”
Leeds Met began delivering sport science support to Bradford City FC and then the following year while attending the British-Irish Association annual conference he learned that the Irish League was seeking a new
sponsor.
After discussions between the university and IFA chief executive Howard Wells, a former student at the Carnegie faculty of sport and education, it was agreed that the name of the faculty would be used to sponsor the league.
“From the beginning we were clear that we wanted to help but it would give us a profile in and across Northern Ireland,” Prof
Lee said.
“It’s not a commercial sponsorship and it is not like an average university somewhere in Scotland or England deciding randomly to try and recruit students from Northern Ireland.
“There is a real human relationship at all sorts of levels through the university.
“We have a real opportunity to develop relationships with schools, young people, their families and we are not just trying to recruit anybody and everybody.”
The university has also launch-ed a new partnership with Rugby League Ireland which will see players benefit from Carnegie’s sporting expertise in developing players, coaches and officials.
Prof Lee said Leeds Met had also forged strong cultural and academic partnerships and had developed links with about 20 different colleges across “the north of these islands” – including Hull, Grimsby, Belfast and Derry.
He said the relationship with Northern Ireland colleges was “evolving”.
“We should be like an American state university. We are not trying to be a research university. We are trying to be like the University of Texas, Wisconsin or California, where there are different campuses and different community colleges,” Prof Lee said.
“In America you might study two years at your local community college and then decide you want to go on to the big city in your state.
“In England the government introduced foundation degrees and that has now rippled out through the rest of these islands and the model is two years and one year for topping up.”
Prof Lee said the initial idea was for Further Education colleges to teach the two-year foundation degrees, with students then travelling to Leeds to top-up to a full degree in their third year.
However, he said that this had changed because the British government was giving colleges the power to award their own foundation degrees.
“In general the regional college network sees the value of the partnership and we like the idea of students who might have stopped at that stage of their education feeling confident and wanting to keep progressing,” Prof Lee said.
“It is a very gradual process. We are dealing with the north – the north of Ireland, the north of England and Scotland.”
A college that Leeds Met has strong links with in Dunfermline, formerly known as Lauder College, has changed its name to Carnegie College.
Prof Lee said he could see one of the north’s institutions making a similar name change.
Among the Leeds degree courses offered through Belfast Metropolitan University is the BA (Hons) in Marketing.
“In principle you can do the degree in anything,” Prof Lee said.
“What tends to happen is a college develops a course for its local economy. Probably what would happen would be students going for a more generic top-up year such as in enterprise.
“If you are going to widen
participation in the north of Ireland, you have often got to hook a youngster or a returning- to-learning person into something they feel very confident in. You take them through to foundation degree and then you branch out.”
Prof Lee said the relationship was still in its infancy and he believed that more students would choose the distance-learning option.
“It is possible for them never to leave home,” he said.
“The numbers are too small to say what the pattern will be, but I think it will mostly be staying at home.”
Suzie Gray, head of higher education at Belfast Metropolitan College, said the collaboration contributed to the continued professional development of college staff, which in turn benefited students.
“Our strategic partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University not only provides opportunities for curriculum development within the college, it provides our students with progression opportunities here in Northern Ireland, thereby increasing the likelihood that they will forge their career closer to home and make a longer-term contribution to the local economy,” she said.
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What exactly do you work as Alan?? Will you be writing any new blogs on the area that you are moving in to?
Anyone else think the whole "What do you work at Alan?" thing is getting a little bit thin? Yes Alan is a mature student and does not, to our knowledge, get money from employment.
The Daily Mail, get a job you sponger, attitude is so lower middle class, proletarian and lacking manners or decorum. It reeks of the lower middle classes with a chip on their shoulder.
So I say to you, the vicious new middle class, do you pay your own way? Are my taxes going to fund the lifestyle that you try to keep up? Scrimping and saving, moaning away about spongers? Taking on loans and morgtages too large for your income in a pathetic attempt to keep up with the neighbours?
Would you not just accept that you are working class? There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. In fact dropping the pretentions to have a middle class lifestyle may actually empower you with a sense of identity and dignity.
Well Alan its a long time since you put something up on ur blog, tell us a bit about life in the lower ormeau and Lavinia close, place etc. How is life doing in your new world? how is your struggle against anti-depressants going? tell us about your aspirations for the future. Dont walk off now and leave your readers/followers in suspense.
Saturday morning in the Holylands:
Now our student friends are all gone we can see how bad the holylands actually is. Take away the maddening noise and hordes of students and something particularly sinister is left.
Saturday morning taking a walk around the holylands here's what I saw: Firstly there was a hood walking up an entry pushing doors: no doubt to find one open and start a burglary.
Next on the corner of the street there's what looks like A-level age students roaring and shouting. Tins of beer in hand and obviosuly still high on drugs. Bear in mind it's 8am on a saturday morning and I'm going to get a paper.
Arrive at the shop: at least 3 hardcore party people still out of it buying ice creams. They can't walk properly: one of them is talking to the lotto stand trying to have a full conversation with it.
Out of the shop with my paper. Notice at the side of the road is a broken beer bottle. The odd thing is there's drops of blood on the ground.
Finally walking down past a flat window, notice two figures inside. Glance as I'm going by and see a known sex offender in a loving embrace with another man.
You couldn't make this shit up...think we should all get the fuck out of dodge!
I love the cricket ground. I can sleep at night. There is no fear of being woken up by noise or violence. We have no soundproofing, but people are quiet. When I get up and go for a piss in the wee hours the silence is beautiful. My neighbours are good people, many of them refugees from the Holyland. The area has it's problems, but has,in my opinion, unfairly been renamed Shameless. One thing is for sure; it can never be as bad as the Holylands.
I am under some stress what with the prospect of being on trial this month. However I look forward to having my day in court.
The Holylands has become a magnet for a wide variety of unsavoury characters. Having been ejected from communities, they gravitate to an area that is suitably anonymous. There is no future for the Holyland. I can only advise people that they demand to be rehoused. The area can only get worse.
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The never ending frat parties that make life hell for the neighbours
Suzanne Breen Northern Editor
THEY showed him no respect in life but his wife hoped that, in death, it might be different. She was wrong.
A group of students in Belfast's university area drank, shouted and urinated in the street as Gerard Morgan's coffin was carried into the house.
"They'd been partying non-stop from the day before, " says Sheila Morgan. "The noise and antics as I waked my husband was horrendous. Neighbours told them Gerard had been killed in an accident at work and to be respectful. They paid no heed.
"It took two police visits to quieten them.
The morning of the funeral police had to sit outside my door to ensure the coffin could leave with dignity." Two months later, Sheila fights back tears recalling the scene. "Students here put us through hell, " she says.
"Gerard was secretary of the residents' group.
He was threatened with a hurling stick for complaining about noise.
"Other residents have been badly beaten.
The students are drunk every night of the week. Partying continues to 5am. It's impossible to sleep. I get out of bed and sit downstairs smoking. When we moved in as a young married couple in the 1980s, there'd be occasional student noise but you'd say 'lads keep the music down' and they'd oblige. Now, you get a brick through the window."
The extent of anti-social behaviour is unbelievable to all but those living in the area, says resident Mary McKillop. She points to dents in her front door which students have tried to kick in, either maliciously or drunkenly in search of a party.
"My garden furniture has been smashed and my plants destroyed. Beer bottles are hurled at my house. Two years ago, I was beaten up. My (then) neighbours were partying at 3am and I went to their door to ask them to stop. A female student came out. She pushed me to the ground and kicked me.
"I was knocked unconscious and taken to hospital. My nerves have never recovered. I'm on medication. My son has moved back home because I'm too frightened to live on my own.
I desperately want out."
Bohemian feel The 'Holyland' area as it's known (because most street names are biblical) runs from Queen's University to the banks of the Lagan.
It was once one of the city's loveliest districts. Its diverse social and religious mix had a bohemian feel even during the war. It was unique by Belfast standards - in one street, an ex-UDR member lived doors from a former republican prisoner.
Until the late 1990s, there was a healthy mix of long-term residents and students. But as Queen's and the University of Ulster expanded, so did the local student population. As student behaviour spiralled out of control, most residents sold up.
Now, 5,000 students are packed into a dozen streets; only around 100 residents remain. Had the paramilitaries driven so many out, there'd be outrage. Most remaining residents are too old or too stubborn to move. Others, like Mary McKillop, are trapped because they aren't owner occupiers who can sell up. Their houses are owned by a private housing association and they can't secure a transfer to an association property elsewhere.
Decent students now won't live in the Holyland, preferring quieter parts of Belfast. It's easy to see why. On Wednesday at 6pm, students have dragged sofas and stereos into their front gardens or the pavement. The music and noise is at night-club levels; hundreds of people are drunk on the streets.
In Carmel Street, 10 male students sit outside a house. Using a three-foot catapult, they fire a water bomb from 40 yards at myself and my six-week old daughter. It splashes the pram. The students cheer as the baby screams. Two passers-by witness the attack and are willing to make statements. I telephone police but, after an hour waiting for them to arrive, give up.
On Thursday night at 11pm, students hurl bricks across Agincourt Avenue. At 2am, four drunken male students drag an interior door from their Palestine Street home onto the pavement. They smash its glass panels.
At 3am, students 'bounce' a car into the middle of Rugby Avenue. A red car with five drunken students nearly collides into it. The police are called.
Student behaviour has deteriorated so much that community safety wardens now walk the streets until 4am. At 3.15am, wardens try to quieten a house party in Cairo Street.
At 3.30am, bins are blazing in the alleyway off Penrose Street. The fire brigade can be out three times a night to extinguish bin and skip fires started by students. At 3.30am, students are dancing on car bonnets in Fitzroy Avenue. This isn't extraordinary -- it's a typical night.
Johanna Kershaw moved to the Holyland from Cork five years ago. "I thought living beside the university would be lovely -- it's the worst slum in Northern Ireland. The students here are completely different from the ones in Cork, and the gardai wouldn't tolerate their behaviour like the PSNI do."
Kershaw's home has been attacked: "Once, students threw a bucket of excrement over the front of the house. Another night, they set plants in my garden on fire. I started screaming. Since September, I've had only 17 nights without partying from my neighbours. I do housework in the middle of the night because I can't sleep.
"Playing football or hurling on the street at 3am is the norm. It's so bad that a family of Zimbabwean asylum seekers moved out. I was walking my wee dogs two nights ago when a male student yelled: 'Get the f**k out of the Holyland you oul' whore and take your rats with you!'" Drunk on the roof Kershaw says the trouble is caused by rural students "going buck mad" at university:
"The area is just a big zoo. One student's father asked if I'd complained about his son.
I said his boy was crazy. 'My son's a pioneer', he said. 'He might be a pioneer when he's down on the farm with you but he's not a pioneer when he's drunk on the roof, shouting and urinating onto the street below at 4am, ' I said. I showed him photographs I'd taken."
The universities have established panels to investigate complaints against students and "discipline" those found guilty. This academic year, the University of Ulster has delivered 37 written and 152 verbal warnings. Queen's have fined 54 students and issued three written warnings.
"It's a PR exercise to ease pressure on the universities, " says resident Alan Murray, himself a mature student at Queen's. "Hundreds of students run riot every night. Only a tiny fraction face disciplinary hearings, and they rightly treat written and verbal warnings as a joke. The fines are minimal - no more than students spend on a night out.
"Expelling students is the only threat they'd take seriously and the universities won't do that. The sons and daughters of the rural rich can attack residents' homes, beat them up, and continue with their degree. If the vicechancellor was beaten up or his house covered in excrement, those responsible wouldn't be let into a lecture theatre again."
Murray is the latest resident leaving. As he packs his bags on a sunny afternoon, drunken students in Rugby Avenue drag a chest of drawers onto a first-floor bay and raise a Tennant's flag over it. Most residents are on tranquilisers or sleeping tablets. "I'm not ashamed to admit I'm one" says Murray.
"And I play a white noise CD to drown out the drunken shouting."
Mother of two, Joanne Fields, was driven out of the area three months ago: "Students smashed my windows and stole my pram. The worst incident was last summer when a drunk student forced his way past me into the house at 10pm. He walked up the stairs and climbed into my daughter's bed. I'd never seen him before in my life.
"I screamed at him to get out and dialled 999. The police came and drove him away.
They didn't arrange to take a written statement from me or a neighbour who witnessed it. When I phoned to see if the student had been charged, the police said, 'oh, usually this sort of thing doesn't happen again'. They don't take residents seriously. We're treated like dirt."
PSNI are 'spineless' The vast majority of students are nationalist and some residents attribute PSNI inaction to a desire not to alienate young middle-class Catholics. An officer who works elsewhere in the city has a different perspective: "My colleagues in south Belfast are spineless.
"They have certain stereotypes. Anti-social behaviour is associated with a chav in tracksuit bottoms. He'll be arrested. A student making people's lives hell is just a high-spirited guy who needs a light scolding."
Brian Gillen, who served 10 years in Long Kesh as a republican prisoner, lived in the Holyland after release. He says there was no trouble from Protestant students but Catholic students, post-peace process, became increasingly sectarian and contemptuous: "You'd try to sleep against a backdrop of shouts of 'Up the Ra'.
"Anyone challenging them was deemed a Protestant and got a mouthful of sectarian abuse. They weren't genuine republicansjust cowardly arseholes. One night, students in the house next door to me were partying at 5am.
"My child couldn't sleep. I asked them to turn it down. 'F**k off you Orange bastard!'
one told me as the 'Boys of the Old Brigade' blasted from their stereo. 'I'll give you the 'Boys of the Old Brigade'.' I said. I got laid into them." Gillen has also moved out: "I'm one of the lucky ones. My heart goes out to people still left there. It's only going to get worse."
word is your becoming just as popular down the ormeau road as you were up in the holylands, problem is your personality just follows right along with you, and out of interest people keep seeing you shuffle around the area that you couldn't wait to get away from, why exactly? you have done nothing but wine and moan for the past god knows how long about 'getting out', yes and also a mention that has been echoed by quite a few people on your rather strange and slightly pointless site, why if you have such problems with the holylands did you ever not try and help find a solution to the problems? as far as everyone can see you have talked the talk and thats all. its very easy to critise other peoples efforts which you have done at length, you might think of trying to be productive for once. but again you more than likely won't bother to publish this comment it raises a difficult question for you. oh yeah and at a time when housing needs are dire why are you taking a valuable property which could have been given to a family who actually needed it?
"why if you have such problems with the holylands did you ever not try and help find a solution to the problems? "
You can't pretend I didn't try. It is however obvious that the area was written off by institutional power years ago. It was decided to turn it into a campus for the universities. Obviously the community had to be gotten rid of somehow. Read the blog. Work out how. The fact that the University of Ulster set up a fake residents group to shut people up and act as a PR front makes it clear that they consider this their campus. After all their former community relations officer now heads the fake residents group. She was not elected and she does not live here.
"at a time when housing needs are dire why are you taking a valuable property which could have been given to a family who actually needed it?"
First of all, I was not allocated this house. I was given to a single man. Don't ask me how. Housing allocation in that estate is a mystery to almost everyone. The person allocated the house wanted to live somewhere else. He swapped with me.
One might ask how we got into a housing crisis. Perhaps this article will help answer all your questions.
http://holylandswarzone.blogspot.com/2008/02/theyve-abolished-community-and-invented.html
For ten years the Housing Executive has been prohibited from building houses. The entire housing budget appears to have been doled out to landlords in grants. Tony McGuinness, writing in Katrina's name, suggested that families be forced to rent from these cunts. For the Rachmanite Manifesto read this:-
http://holylandswarzone.blogspot.com/2008/05/tonys-fraudulent-article.html
and this:-
http://holylandswarzone.blogspot.com/2007/05/short-note-on-banality-of-evil.html
and this:-
http://holylandswarzone.blogspot.com/2007/09/katrina-wakes-up-and-smells-coffee.html
and this:-
http://holylandswarzone.blogspot.com/2007/08/tony-comes-out-of-closet.html
and this:-
http://holylandswarzone.blogspot.com/2007/09/katrina-wakes-up-and-smells-coffee.html
Cathy Come Home. Fuck Help us All.
"why if you have such problems with the holylands did you ever not try and help find a solution to the problems" - you still havn't answered the question, a simple answer would be nice.
"at a time when housing needs are dire why are you taking a valuable property which could have been given to a family who actually needed it?" - i refer to the fact that you are 1 man taking up a whole house.
i don't fancy looking through your rants thank you very much just nice clear answers, i don't like to come to a conclusion through half said comments, also if you didn't come out and clearly state what you have done to help this poor state of affairs its ok, if you havn't bothered to get off your bottom to help but at least don't try to infer that you have.
you said 'a expensive car'.
mmmmmh, would 'an expensive car' not be correct?
I think so.
(I noticed that you liked to patronise other comment writers about poor usage of grammar, so "rite bk at ye").
I remember the look on Anne Monaghan's face after the Fortnight Magazine article exploded. She didn't see that one coming. Back when I, falsely, believed that the area could be saved I called for first years to be compulsorily housed in university accommodation. Talk about pissing in a river. The committee can live in whatever fantasy land they choose, but the chair, the Vampire Queen Bitch who invented the thing, has known from the start that the area is finished. Here she is in the South Belfast News calling for "more private accommodation". This is odd because she is pretending in the same breath to object to HMO's. Shit floats, she'll go far.
"at a time when housing needs are dire why are you taking a valuable property which could have been given to a family who actually needed it?"
This sounds like Tony McGuinness speak. What is one to do? Rent from a private landlord? Add to the 140 million in housing benefit poured into the pockets of private landlords every year? This is, after all, what he called for in his fraudulent article? Perhaps he considers that an appropriate use of public resources. Perhaps when he fucks off he'll sell his house to the local housing association for shit money. Then they can imprison more people, families obviously, in the Holyland. After all, why do his next door neighbours keep leaving? Is it the drunken rabble pouring out of Karma and the Hatfield five nights a week? Perhaps it's the cries through the wall of "Motherrrr, Motherrrr" or the sound of his coffin lid creaking as he gets up in the middle of the night?
Pious hypocrites amuse me no end.
good guess but no potato, this i can tell you is not mr Tony McGuinness, still you dodge the questions! cat got your tongue? ;)
I have answered the questions. You just don't like the answers. Enjoy the summer. Come September it'll be worse than ever. Feel free to tell the world how much better things are when that happens. Celebrate your failure with pride. I'm sure Anne Monaghan will be there to help you. After all where would you be without her? Who'll tell you what to think when she fucks off?
Come September I think that things will be much more interesting: Arbuckle, think of him what you may, kept students on their toes and showed them that all residents aren't a push over.
There are more like Arbuckle moving in on a monthly basis around here: and I'd say we're going to have an interesting term next year!
ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT?
what about your day in court Alan? Any news?
I think you've all got "ginger" wrong...saw him the other day in the shop buying tin-foil...he must have turned over a new leaf and took up baking ;-)
Message from a resident at their wits end:
Dear students,
hope you all are enjoying your holidays because when you all come up in september I'm making it my personal mission in life to fuck you all over.
I pledge that I will not cease from phoning the police on you, calling the noise wardens, watching your antics and sending in detailed descriptions to the university complaints department: including the address of the house concerned.
You see you students have made life in the holylands so shite that I've actually reached a point where it's entertaining. On the tail end of last term I managed to fuck over many students, rightly so, through justified complaints to the university and police...I was loving it!....and will continue to love it because I hate you fuckers and I'm going to enjoy you squirming before the university authorities and the police.
You see it's a sport now: fucking over students and this season I'm gonna bring it to the premiership!
So next time you get a letter from queens, the noise wardens call or the police are at your door...think of us...the residents who are fucking you over and loving every second of it!!!
Apologies for my absence. The stress of preparing for a court case is enormous. However I'm still here and turned up in court yesterday only to have the trial adjourned until Friday the 4th July at 10.30 Court 7 Magistrates Courts.
If you're wondering why it was adjourned it appears that someone (I will not say who) lacked the courage to present themselves for cross examination in court. Maybe next time;)
You state that 'The Holylands has become a magnet for a wide variety of unsavoury characters'. Yet in another article you were defending your friend, Arbuckle, who was a hood and a convivcted armed robber and death driver. Would he not be an unsavourary character?
Arbuckle was not a "death driver". He was also a good friend to half the students in Jerusalem St; he chipped their meters so they got free gas. I didn't hear them complaining about that.
The Gown articles are a disgrace and the paper and Queens should probably be prosecuted for incitement. Suffice it to say this blog would never gloat over the death of a "student".
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